Recruitment and retention

[Josh]

it would be great if an undercover source could be attrached to the forum to give us a few inside tips.

Can you go down with a pair of binoculars?

 

[Dolph]

Players who are going to but on the market at the end of August

Broncos Payne Haas Adam Reynolds Billy Walters Brendan Piakura Corey Oates (player option) Delouise Hoeter Jock Madden Jordan Riki Kurt Capewell	Warriors Rocco Berry Josh Curran Wayde Egan Jackson Ford, Tohu Harris Valingi Kepu Freddy Lussick Luke Metcalf Jazz Tevaga Taine Tuaupiki Dallin Watene-Zelezniak.	Sharks Jesse Colquhoun Kade Dykes Braden Hamlin-Uele Kayal Iro Matt Moylan Niwhai Puru Toby Rudolf Siteni Taukamo Connor Tracey Jack Williams
Raiders Nick Cotric Jamal Fogarty Peter Hola Sebastian Kris Danny Levi Ata Mariota Trey Mooney Pasami Saulo James Schiller Harley Smith-Shields Tom Starling Semi Valemei Elliott Whitehead Zac Woolford Hudson Young	Cowboys Tom Chester Tom Dearden Kyle Feldt Coen Hess Chad Townsend	Bulldogs Jacob Kiraz Paul Alamoti Andrew Davey Reece Hoffman Max King Iverson Matai Tevita Pangai Junior Franklin Pele Hayze Perham Jeral Skelton Jackson Topine
Sea Eagles Tolutau Koula Ben Trbojevic Josh Schuster Karl Lawton Lachlan Croker Taniela Paseka Zac Fulton	Dragons Tyrell Sloan Ben Murdoch-Masila Cody Ramsey Francis Molo Jack de Belin Jack Bird (MO) Jaiyden Hunt Jaydn Su’A Mathew Feagai Max Feagai Moses Suli Paul Turner Talatau Amone Zane Musgrove	Rabbits Campbell Graham Ben Lovett Isaiah Taas Izaac Thompson Jai Arrow Josiah Karapani Keaon Koloamatangi Leon Te Hau Peter Mamouzelos Shaquai Mitchell Taane Milne Tevita Tatola Tom Burgess
Roosters Joseph Manu Angus Crichton, Brandon Smith (PO), Luke Keary, Nat Butcher, Paul Momirovski, Sitili Tupouniua, Siua Wong, Terrell May	Knights Bradman Best Dane Gagai, Jacob Saifiti, Krystian Mapapalangi, Mathew Croker, Phoenix Crossland, Simi Sasagi Tyson Gamble.	Eels Bailey Simonsson (MO), Dajearn Asi (MO), Jack Murchie. Jirah Momoisea, J’maine Hopgood, Josh Hodgson (MO), Ky Rodwell, Makahesi Makatta, Matt Doorey (MO), Ofahiki Ogden (CO), Sean Russell. Jakob Arthur
Panthers Dylan Edwards Jarome Luai, Liam Martin, Lindsay Smith, Luke Garner, Matt Eisenhuth, Mitch Kenny, Sunia Turuva, Taylan May, Zac Hosking.	Storm Aaron Pene, Eliesa Katoa, Joe Chan (MO), Marion Seve, Nick Meaney, Reimis Smith, Tom Eisenhuth (CO) Nick Meany	Dolphins Anthony Milford Brenko Lee, Edrick Lee, Euan Aitken, Herman Ese’ese (PO), Jarrod Wallace, Jesse Bromwich, Kodi Nikorima, Mark Nicholls, Ray Stone, Robert Jennings (MO), Valynce Te Whare.
Titans Moeaki Fotuaika hris Randall, Isaac Liu, Jacob Alick (CO), Jaiman Joliffe, Jayden Campbell, Joe Stimson, Kieran Foran, Klese Haas Phillip Sami, Sam Verrills, Tanah Boyd, Tom Weaver, Tino Fa’asuamaleaui, Toby Sexton, Treymain Spry.	Tigers Stefano Utoikamanu Adam Doueihi, Alex Twal, Api Koroisau (MO), Asu Kepaoa, Brandon Tumeth (PO). Jake Simpkin, Junior Tupou, Justin Matamua (CO), Rya Ngatikaura, Shawn Blore, Sione Fainu, Starford To’a. Stefano Utoikamanu, Tristan Reilly.

Gonna need quite a few new recruits. The forwards are mostly in their 30s and we are thin for decent outside backs and the jury is still out on the halves. Knowing how Benny chased after Wighton, he isn't confident in the halves we have now.

 

[Liverbird with Phins up]

Defo need a marquee half

 

[DolphinLungren]

I wonder if Lomax could come good again with us if we got him cheapish? Something not quite right at the Dragons and we could do with another centre next year to partner Herbie. I am really not sure if Niu is a long-term option.

 

[Chris]

I wonder if Lomax could come good again with us if we got him cheapish? Something not quite right at the Dragons and we could do with another centre next year to partner Herbie. I am really not sure if Niu is a long-term option.

I reckon him and Herbie would be a sensation centre pairing.

But lets wait and see Valynce Te Whare. He might prove to be a gun.

 

[Jetty]

Players who are going to but on the market at the end of August

Broncos Payne Haas Adam Reynolds Billy Walters Brendan Piakura Corey Oates (player option) Delouise Hoeter Jock Madden Jordan Riki Kurt Capewell	Warriors Rocco Berry Josh Curran Wayde Egan Jackson Ford, Tohu Harris Valingi Kepu Freddy Lussick Luke Metcalf Jazz Tevaga Taine Tuaupiki Dallin Watene-Zelezniak.	Sharks Jesse Colquhoun Kade Dykes Braden Hamlin-Uele Kayal Iro Matt Moylan Niwhai Puru Toby Rudolf Siteni Taukamo Connor Tracey Jack Williams
Raiders Nick Cotric Jamal Fogarty Peter Hola Sebastian Kris Danny Levi Ata Mariota Trey Mooney Pasami Saulo James Schiller Harley Smith-Shields Tom Starling Semi Valemei Elliott Whitehead Zac Woolford Hudson Young	Cowboys Tom Chester Tom Dearden Kyle Feldt Coen Hess Chad Townsend	Bulldogs Jacob Kiraz Paul Alamoti Andrew Davey Reece Hoffman Max King Iverson Matai Tevita Pangai Junior Franklin Pele Hayze Perham Jeral Skelton Jackson Topine
Sea Eagles Tolutau Koula Ben Trbojevic Josh Schuster Karl Lawton Lachlan Croker Taniela Paseka Zac Fulton	Dragons Tyrell Sloan Ben Murdoch-Masila Cody Ramsey Francis Molo Jack de Belin Jack Bird (MO) Jaiyden Hunt Jaydn Su’A Mathew Feagai Max Feagai Moses Suli Paul Turner Talatau Amone Zane Musgrove	Rabbits Campbell Graham Ben Lovett Isaiah Taas Izaac Thompson Jai Arrow Josiah Karapani Keaon Koloamatangi Leon Te Hau Peter Mamouzelos Shaquai Mitchell Taane Milne Tevita Tatola Tom Burgess
Roosters Joseph Manu Angus Crichton, Brandon Smith (PO), Luke Keary, Nat Butcher, Paul Momirovski, Sitili Tupouniua, Siua Wong, Terrell May	Knights Bradman Best Dane Gagai, Jacob Saifiti, Krystian Mapapalangi, Mathew Croker, Phoenix Crossland, Simi Sasagi Tyson Gamble.	Eels Bailey Simonsson (MO), Dajearn Asi (MO), Jack Murchie. Jirah Momoisea, J’maine Hopgood, Josh Hodgson (MO), Ky Rodwell, Makahesi Makatta, Matt Doorey (MO), Ofahiki Ogden (CO), Sean Russell. Jakob Arthur
Panthers Dylan Edwards Jarome Luai, Liam Martin, Lindsay Smith, Luke Garner, Matt Eisenhuth, Mitch Kenny, Sunia Turuva, Taylan May, Zac Hosking.	Storm Aaron Pene, Eliesa Katoa, Joe Chan (MO), Marion Seve, Nick Meaney, Reimis Smith, Tom Eisenhuth (CO) Nick Meany	Dolphins Anthony Milford Brenko Lee, Edrick Lee, Euan Aitken, Herman Ese’ese (PO), Jarrod Wallace, Jesse Bromwich, Kodi Nikorima, Mark Nicholls, Ray Stone, Robert Jennings (MO), Valynce Te Whare.
Titans Moeaki Fotuaika hris Randall, Isaac Liu, Jacob Alick (CO), Jaiman Joliffe, Jayden Campbell, Joe Stimson, Kieran Foran, Klese Haas Phillip Sami, Sam Verrills, Tanah Boyd, Tom Weaver, Tino Fa’asuamaleaui, Toby Sexton, Treymain Spry.	Tigers Stefano Utoikamanu Adam Doueihi, Alex Twal, Api Koroisau (MO), Asu Kepaoa, Brandon Tumeth (PO). Jake Simpkin, Junior Tupou, Justin Matamua (CO), Rya Ngatikaura, Shawn Blore, Sione Fainu, Starford To’a. Stefano Utoikamanu, Tristan Reilly.

So many!!! No wonder they are talking about another new team!

 

[Chris]

So many!!! No wonder they are talking about another new team!

Plenty of players. Just a question if they still are or were ever any good.

 

[DolphinLungren]

I reckon him and Herbie would be a sensation centre pairing.

But lets wait and see Valynce Te Whare. He might prove to be a gun.

I am a huge fan of Te Whare but I reckon he might end up in the 2nd row.

 

[Dolph]

I am a huge fan of Te Whare but I reckon he might end up in the 2nd row.

How quick is he? If he's fast enough, similar to Aitken or faster and can pass, he'll go well in the centres for now.

 

[DolphinLungren]

How quick is he? If he's fast enough, similar to Aitken or faster and can pass, he'll go well in the centres for now.

He's decently quick, definitely more than Brenko. His defense is not the best though. He only started playing league last year, having previously played union. He has a fair bit to learn particularly in defense which is why I think he plays centre for now. Once he gets his head around it I reckon he would be an awesome impact 2nd rower in the vein of David Fifita. We will see this weekend as reports are Brenko failed his injury test at training today. Can't wait - he is exciting to watch in attack.

 

[Liverbird with Phins up]

I wonder if Lomax could come good again with us if we got him cheapish? Something not quite right at the Dragons and we could do with another centre next year to partner Herbie. I am really not sure if Niu is a long-term option.

He is playing nowhere near what he is capable of. Problem is we would have to act now, as once a new coach arrives there it might be too late.

I have seen form Lomax, and I believe Bennett can get him back there. He was touted as an origin center until Hook got a hold of him.

I don't mind Suli at the Dragons as well. Misused by Hook, due to his one out hit up game plan.

I am an ex Dragon, fyi

 

[Chris]

He's decently quick, definitely more than Brenko. His defense is not the best though. He only started playing league last year, having previously played union. He has a fair bit to learn particularly in defense which is why I think he plays centre for now. Once he gets his head around it I reckon he would be an awesome impact 2nd rower in the vein of David Fifita. We will see this weekend as reports are Brenko failed his injury test at training today. Can't wait - he is exciting to watch in attack.

Two kinds of defensive problems.
1. Misses the tackles. Usually a problem for smaller players.
2. Chooses the wrong time when to move up, move in, slide and etc. Reads the attack poorly.

If his defensive problem is #1 he'll struggle in the forwards. If it's #2, as I think you mean, he'll struggle in the centres.

Unless his head is all skull, #2 can be fixed pretty easily. Just takes experience.

 

[Liverbird with Phins up]

So many!!! No wonder they are talking about another new team!

Halves are the issue for a new team.

 

[Liverbird with Phins up]

Two kinds of defensive problems.
1. Misses the tackles. Usually a problem for smaller players.
2. Chooses the wrong time when to move up, move in, slide and etc. Reads the attack poorly.

If his defensive problem is #1 he'll struggle in the forwards. If it's #2, as I think you mean, he'll struggle in the centres.

Unless his head is all skull, #2 can be fixed pretty easily. Just takes experience.

Both are defensive problems, And defense is all about attitude.

I think we can both agree the attitude at the dragons is all wrong.

He was defensively sound prior to this era. Hence his origin rating.

Change of coach, from a shit one (Hook) to the best ever (Bennett) would fix that.

 

[Chris]

Both are defensive problems, And defense is all about attitude.

I think we can both agree the attitude at the dragons is all wrong.

He was defensively sound prior to this era. Hence his origin rating.

Change of coach, from a shit one (Hook) to the best ever (Bennett) would fix that.

Don't watch much of the Dragons but I know they'll have a new coach soon.

 

[Liverbird with Phins up]

Don't watch much of the Dragons but I know they'll have a new coach soon.

Yeah. And thats why we would have to act now. Because if they get hasler or someone good. Lomax might start to pull his finger out.

Hook seems to piss players off if you are not his favourite.

Lomax did do this a while ago

 

[Chris]

Yeah. And thats why we would have to act now. Because if they get hasler or someone good. Lomax might start to pull his finger out.

Hook seems to piss players off if you are not his favourite.

Lomax did do this a while ago

At one time I think Griffin was a good coach. Just like players lose it, obviously coaches do too.

 

[Red]

He is playing nowhere near what he is capable of. Problem is we would have to act now, as once a new coach arrives there it might be too late.

I have seen form Lomax, and I believe Bennett can get him back there. He was touted as an origin center until Hook got a hold of him.

I don't mind Suli at the Dragons as well. Misused by Hook, due to his one out hit up game plan.

I am an ex Dragon, fyi

How about Ben Hunt to play in the halves for another 2 seasons after this? I know Benny let him go in order to keep Milf. Probably a mistake though as far as I know, Hunt hasn't been great either.

 

[Jetty]

How about Ben Hunt to play in the halves for another 2 seasons after this? I know Benny let him go in order to keep Milf. Probably a mistake though as far as I know, Hunt hasn't been great either.

As a 5/8 who mostly runs himself and organises just a little, that might be a winner. Too bad he's already 32 or 33, isn't he?

 

[Liverbird with Phins up]

How about Ben Hunt to play in the halves for another 2 seasons after this? I know Benny let him go in order to keep Milf. Probably a mistake though as far as I know, Hunt hasn't been great either.

Watching the dragons, I always thought he was a better 9.

I think mentally he isn’t like a top 7. Hasn’t recovered from that gf drop. And he is getting on a bit.

With everything going on at the moment walker and Lomax would me my go to. I’d be having chats with their managers.