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257Matt said:
Herbie in a heartbeat

Only four players irreplaceable Katoa, Herbie, Donga and Plath.
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A few others pretty key too but they're the big four

That said, Bostock just does not lose games and neither does his sister (this year anyway)

We obviously lose Flegler and Knowles as the first two if we need cap space and if we need to lose a marquee player it has to be Hammer

Obviously only if we have to but in theory Brimson is available for about 650k or so (Titans are shopping him and will kick in 200k or so on his slight overs deal) and is actually a very good fullback just isn't a centre or a six he's only a small downgrade from Hammer if we had to save 700k or so there, Trai unfortunately isn't the guy in a premiership contending side in first grade as much as he's an amazing backup. As an ex Titans fan, Kini does have the upside because of his attack but Brimson is a substantially better fullback today because he can actually defend at FB and is much better in attack at FB than he is in the centres or at five-eighth he's just being played out of position because the Titans signed two fullbacks to marquee money and Kini can't be repurposed elsewhere

Hopefully we can keep Hammer and it's just posturing from his management

Our cap can't be in that bad shape even with a Katoa upgrade and Herbie upgrade coming and presumably a Bostock upgrade if we keep him too and a small upgrade for Hammer, we have shed 800k in cap for Safiti, will shed 900k for Flegler plus have only net paid a few hundred k for Williams selling Nikorima and have sold off Isaako and Averillo and Keeley who granted wouldn't be on huge money but more than the min plus we can let Knowles go too if he doesn't want to take a min wage type deal when the time comes and we can afford to let one of our second rowers go, presumably Lemuelu and Pouniu shouldn't be on huge money yet, granted Finefuiaki will need an upgrade - again ideally we keep everyone but we have flexibility if everyone wants to stay and Flegler + Safiti alone is 1.7m in cap space minus min wage replacements (presumably promoting development guys)

We will need to spare an extra 500-600k a season to upgrade Katoa but that's an extra year away

I think it is possible to keep the core of the side together if they all want to stay and even give the key players upgrades, we're just going to have to shed Flegler and Knowles and one of the second rowers and promote a couple of our development and QCup guys potentially. Ideally we keep everyone, although if Flegler wants to stay he has to take a massive pay cut. I could see the Broncos wanting him back though especially if they lose Willison and if that happens we should allow it unless he wants to take unders to stay or improves massively post injury in the off season, the Titans made the mistake of paying Fermor post serious injury and he hasn't been the same since and never will be again most likely

We could potentially put together a Penrith-like dynasty here if we keep the core of the side together
 
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as i heard on a radio players are prepeared to take less if they can keep the squad and i think thats going happen asnt big name i see noe them wanting to leave ( and club will want big name replacements if we do )
 
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SwoopAE said:
A few others pretty key too but they're the big four

That said, Bostock just does not lose games and neither does his sister (this year anyway)

We obviously lose Flegler and Knowles as the first two if we need cap space and if we need to lose a marquee player it has to be Hammer

Obviously only if we have to but in theory Brimson is available for about 650k or so (Titans are shopping him and will kick in 200k or so on his slight overs deal) and is actually a very good fullback just isn't a centre or a six he's only a small downgrade from Hammer if we had to save 700k or so there, Trai unfortunately isn't the guy in a premiership contending side in first grade as much as he's an amazing backup. As an ex Titans fan, Kini does have the upside because of his attack but Brimson is a substantially better fullback today because he can actually defend at FB and is much better in attack at FB than he is in the centres or at five-eighth he's just being played out of position because the Titans signed two fullbacks to marquee money and Kini can't be repurposed elsewhere

Hopefully we can keep Hammer and it's just posturing from his management

Our cap can't be in that bad shape even with a Katoa upgrade and Herbie upgrade coming and presumably a Bostock upgrade if we keep him too and a small upgrade for Hammer, we have shed 800k in cap for Safiti, will shed 900k for Flegler plus have only net paid a few hundred k for Williams selling Nikorima and have sold off Isaako and Averillo and Keeley who granted wouldn't be on huge money but more than the min plus we can let Knowles go too if he doesn't want to take a min wage type deal when the time comes and we can afford to let one of our second rowers go, presumably Lemuelu and Pouniu shouldn't be on huge money yet, granted Finefuiaki will need an upgrade - again ideally we keep everyone but we have flexibility if everyone wants to stay and Flegler + Safiti alone is 1.7m in cap space minus min wage replacements (presumably promoting development guys)

We will need to spare an extra 500-600k a season to upgrade Katoa but that's an extra year away

I think it is possible to keep the core of the side together if they all want to stay and even give the key players upgrades, we're just going to have to shed Flegler and Knowles and one of the second rowers and promote a couple of our development and QCup guys potentially. Ideally we keep everyone, although if Flegler wants to stay he has to take a massive pay cut. I could see the Broncos wanting him back though especially if they lose Willison and if that happens we should allow it unless he wants to take unders to stay or improves massively post injury in the off season, the Titans made the mistake of paying Fermor post serious injury and he hasn't been the same since and never will be again most likely

We could potentially put together a Penrith-like dynasty here if we keep the core of the side together
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brimson be highly unlikey as he wants be full time full back to get more than 700k
 
SwoopAE said:
A few others pretty key too but they're the big four

That said, Bostock just does not lose games and neither does his sister (this year anyway)

We obviously lose Flegler and Knowles as the first two if we need cap space and if we need to lose a marquee player it has to be Hammer

Obviously only if we have to but in theory Brimson is available for about 650k or so (Titans are shopping him and will kick in 200k or so on his slight overs deal) and is actually a very good fullback just isn't a centre or a six he's only a small downgrade from Hammer if we had to save 700k or so there, Trai unfortunately isn't the guy in a premiership contending side in first grade as much as he's an amazing backup. As an ex Titans fan, Kini does have the upside because of his attack but Brimson is a substantially better fullback today because he can actually defend at FB and is much better in attack at FB than he is in the centres or at five-eighth he's just being played out of position because the Titans signed two fullbacks to marquee money and Kini can't be repurposed elsewhere

Hopefully we can keep Hammer and it's just posturing from his management

Our cap can't be in that bad shape even with a Katoa upgrade and Herbie upgrade coming and presumably a Bostock upgrade if we keep him too and a small upgrade for Hammer, we have shed 800k in cap for Safiti, will shed 900k for Flegler plus have only net paid a few hundred k for Williams selling Nikorima and have sold off Isaako and Averillo and Keeley who granted wouldn't be on huge money but more than the min plus we can let Knowles go too if he doesn't want to take a min wage type deal when the time comes and we can afford to let one of our second rowers go, presumably Lemuelu and Pouniu shouldn't be on huge money yet, granted Finefuiaki will need an upgrade - again ideally we keep everyone but we have flexibility if everyone wants to stay and Flegler + Safiti alone is 1.7m in cap space minus min wage replacements (presumably promoting development guys)

We will need to spare an extra 500-600k a season to upgrade Katoa but that's an extra year away

I think it is possible to keep the core of the side together if they all want to stay and even give the key players upgrades, we're just going to have to shed Flegler and Knowles and one of the second rowers and promote a couple of our development and QCup guys potentially. Ideally we keep everyone, although if Flegler wants to stay he has to take a massive pay cut. I could see the Broncos wanting him back though especially if they lose Willison and if that happens we should allow it unless he wants to take unders to stay or improves massively post injury in the off season, the Titans made the mistake of paying Fermor post serious injury and he hasn't been the same since and never will be again most likely

We could potentially put together a Penrith-like dynasty here if we keep the core of the side together
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Brimson, on less money than Hammer and Titans paying part of that is a very interesting idea!
 
aj aint coming here for that

hes turned 900k for 3 seasons twice so yeah good luck gettig him at 750k
 
mr_c said:
aj aint coming here for that

hes turned 900k for 3 seasons twice so yeah good luck gettig him at 750k
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Salary cap going up. He'll probably be on a bit less than 1 mil for his next contract. Hammer wants (but isn't getting) 1.4 mil.
 
Dolph said:
Salary cap going up. He'll probably be on a bit less than 1 mil for his next contract. Hammer wants (but isn't getting) 1.4 mil.
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yup but if we cant afford hammer and aj is on 900k( not 750k) now there's o way we get him if cat keep hammer as aj will be wanting give or take 1.1 1.2 mil
 
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