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Recruitment and Retention for 2028

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257Matt said:
Flegler

Looks like 2 of the 3 clients from ignite are leaving

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Not at all surprised do the math's it be to keep herbie (under same magement ) there can see it now and ignite are losing players fast to other agency's by the droves not just our club but we will still need another prop not just a makeshift one
 
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Flegler leaving is a good thing, I want him to do well for us in 2027 and in the future for his new club and yes, he's still serviceable but he's paid like a marquee forward and just hasn't been one since his injury, we have another year with him to get Su'a and then some other young guns ready and if need be Su'a and Kaufusi can easily take Flegler and Stone's roles for one season then Kaufusi gets phased out as a second young forward becomes ready to take that spot, or we transition Finefuiaki or Lemuelu into a middles role and the other plays second row with Pouniu

That's 900k in cap space back for 2028, goes a long way towards retaining Herbie, Plath, Katoa and Donoghoe who are the priorities and we can get the same output we get from Flegler for a third of the cap space from Su'a and other young up and comers

At the end of the day we've been getting 400k a season output from Flegler on 900k a season. Ditching that contract is exactly what the club needs to manage the cap and prioritise keeping everyone else we want to keep, then getting Kaufusi's money back as well due to retirement at the end of 2027 is big too

Hopefully we can get early Plath, Donoghoe and Katoa extensions and retain Herbie and we'll be well positioned to be a top 4 side for a long time.
 
SwoopAE said:
Flegler leaving is a good thing, I want him to do well for us in 2027 and in the future for his new club and yes, he's still serviceable but he's paid like a marquee forward and just hasn't been one since his injury, we have another year with him to get Su'a and then some other young guns ready and if need be Su'a and Kaufusi can easily take Flegler and Stone's roles for one season then Kaufusi gets phased out as a second young forward becomes ready to take that spot, or we transition Finefuiaki or Lemuelu into a middles role and the other plays second row with Pouniu

That's 900k in cap space back for 2028, goes a long way towards retaining Herbie, Plath, Katoa and Donoghoe who are the priorities and we can get the same output we get from Flegler for a third of the cap space from Su'a and other young up and comers

At the end of the day we've been getting 400k a season output from Flegler on 900k a season. Ditching that contract is exactly what the club needs to manage the cap and prioritise keeping everyone else we want to keep, then getting Kaufusi's money back as well due to retirement at the end of 2027 is big too

Hopefully we can get early Plath, Donoghoe and Katoa extensions and retain Herbie and we'll be well positioned to be a top 4 side for a long time.
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Flegler leaving is genuinely helpful. Kaufusi can definitely hold the front row down in his position especially with the same low minutes. Pouniu can take position in the back row and kuli can have a shot in the middle. Bish bash bosh.
 
So if the media is to be believed we're losing Bostock, Flegler and Herbie and have no signings coming up

Surely that's not possible it's like 2.5m in cap space between them or more like 3.2m if w factor in Kaufusi retiring at the end of 2027 plus having already offloaded Isaako Averillo Keeley and Nikorima and only signing Williams and depth players/rookies plus Safiti was on 800k too

It kind of feels like if we lose one of Bostock or Herbie we have to be retaining the other at this point if Flegler is going otherwise we are going to have an insane war chest even after extending Katoa/Plath/Donoghoe given all three are already on deals and only need upgrades - the upgrades can't be worth more than 1.5m or so max even if we're paying all three their maximum, presumably Katoa will be on 1.2-1.4 range pre/post cap jump, then Plath on say 900k and Donoghoe on 750-800k or whatever vs their current salaries

I feel like if we keep Herbie on say 1.2m that roughly lines up with the cap making sense after we upgrade the key three players next season if we lose Bostock and Flegler to roughly keep the roster we have at that point with Finefuiaki transitioning into the middle if that works if we keep Lemuelu so we won't need to sign a new prop if that's the case.
 
yonathonjoung said:
Flegler leaving is genuinely helpful. Kaufusi can definitely hold the front row down in his position especially with the same low minutes. Pouniu can take position in the back row and kuli can have a shot in the middle. Bish bash bosh.
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theres no way we loose thom an then put makeshift prop in
 
SwoopAE said:
So if the media is to be believed we're losing Bostock, Flegler and Herbie and have no signings coming up

Surely that's not possible it's like 2.5m in cap space between them or more like 3.2m if w factor in Kaufusi retiring at the end of 2027 plus having already offloaded Isaako Averillo Keeley and Nikorima and only signing Williams and depth players/rookies plus Safiti was on 800k too

It kind of feels like if we lose one of Bostock or Herbie we have to be retaining the other at this point if Flegler is going otherwise we are going to have an insane war chest even after extending Katoa/Plath/Donoghoe given all three are already on deals and only need upgrades - the upgrades can't be worth more than 1.5m or so max even if we're paying all three their maximum, presumably Katoa will be on 1.2-1.4 range pre/post cap jump, then Plath on say 900k and Donoghoe on 750-800k or whatever vs their current salaries

I feel like if we keep Herbie on say 1.2m that roughly lines up with the cap making sense after we upgrade the key three players next season if we lose Bostock and Flegler to roughly keep the roster we have at that point with Finefuiaki transitioning into the middle if that works if we keep Lemuelu so we won't need to sign a new prop if that's the case.
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i reckon we get a decent prop as no way we have money there for a rainy day
 
Plath will do decent minutes at prop I assume this year if Donoghoe is still doing most of the lock minutes

But yeah I could see us going to market

Su'a will likely be the one taking Flegler's place though especially if Flegler leaves in 2028 not 2027 so he'll have a season of first grade by then
 
plath a prop yeah i doubt it and only way fuis does it s if we get injures in game
 
SwoopAE said:
Plath will do decent minutes at prop I assume this year if Donoghoe is still doing most of the lock minutes

But yeah I could see us going to market

Su'a will likely be the one taking Flegler's place though especially if Flegler leaves in 2028 not 2027 so he'll have a season of first grade by then
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Surely Knowles will move to prop.
SwoopAE said:
So if the media is to be believed we're losing Bostock, Flegler and Herbie and have no signings coming up

Surely that's not possible it's like 2.5m in cap space between them or more like 3.2m if w factor in Kaufusi retiring at the end of 2027 plus having already offloaded Isaako Averillo Keeley and Nikorima and only signing Williams and depth players/rookies plus Safiti was on 800k too

It kind of feels like if we lose one of Bostock or Herbie we have to be retaining the other at this point if Flegler is going otherwise we are going to have an insane war chest even after extending Katoa/Plath/Donoghoe given all three are already on deals and only need upgrades - the upgrades can't be worth more than 1.5m or so max even if we're paying all three their maximum, presumably Katoa will be on 1.2-1.4 range pre/post cap jump, then Plath on say 900k and Donoghoe on 750-800k or whatever vs their current salaries

I feel like if we keep Herbie on say 1.2m that roughly lines up with the cap making sense after we upgrade the key three players next season if we lose Bostock and Flegler to roughly keep the roster we have at that point with Finefuiaki transitioning into the middle if that works if we keep Lemuelu so we won't need to sign a new prop if that's the case.
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Ray Stone as well and Kodi and Isaako are already gone. Unless they signed Hammer for about 1.7 mil a year, you'd think we have some cap space coming up. Just so 2 257Matt understands the Dogs aren't poaching Donoghue or anyone else we want to keep.
 
Cowboys circling Flegler.

Told you.

Kind of knew he would be off though..

Wont go into it. However, I new for an obvious he was leaving the area, as I see him him a fair bit.

His family also have a banana farm up there.
 
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