Recruitment and retention

Red said:

Looking likely

Half set for Bulldogs release to join Dolphins after recovery from neck injury — Transfer Whispers

Half set for Bulldogs release to join Dolphins after recovery from neck injury — Transfer Whispers

www.foxsports.com.au

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Irrespective of Brown, getting this guy is a good move.

Liverbird with Phins up said:

Irrespective of Brown, getting this guy is a good move.

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Might be even better given how much money Brown wants.

yeah but bulldogs still wont release him tat article was from 7th no way they be wanting to pay out his last two years

mr_c said:

yeah but bulldogs still wont release him tat article was from 7th no way they be wanting to pay out his last two years

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They won't release him if they don't have to but look at the big names they have recruited over the past 3 years. They have salary cap issues without a doubt.

Josh said:

They won't release him if they don't have to but look at the big names they have recruited over the past 3 years. They have salary cap issues without a doubt.

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yeah we know that and think they want release others before him

mr_c said:

yeah we know that and think they want release others before him

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Supply and demand. I'm sure they'd like to release half a dozen depth signings before him but if not other club wants them........ Dogs can still get rid of them but have to pay 100% of their salary which is counted under the cap.

Josh said:

Supply and demand. I'm sure they'd like to release half a dozen depth signings before him but if not other club wants them........ Dogs can still get rid of them but have to pay 100% of their salary which is counted under the cap.

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Bulldogs issue isn't salary cap as they only have three players on 800 plus being Burton, Crichton and Kikau. Bulldogs issue is that Gus Gould has signed too many players and they don't have enough numbers in their Top 30 and Development List to fit them all in so he's had to shuffle a few on. Instead of adding club or mutual options into contracts like a lot of clubs and some foolishly add player options notably Eels & Tigers Gus prefers to sign them for the extra year, take a small financial hit and move them on.

Development List has a salary cap of 640k and min payment is 80k this doesn't include 3k per NRL game they play and the 3k per game train & trial players play this is why clubs only have 4-6 on the Development List. Bulldogs had 8 not so long ago until they let Seve and Papalii go. They had more than 30 in the Top 30 hence why Semrani and Kautoga were let go to Eels and with Oloapu still there they're right on 30 and they're about to sign Paluhu from Titans who they're desperate for right now. They're the last club that has a cap issue but they have a numbers issue that needs to be tidied up just how Gus operates so successfully.

Dolphins can hold out for Oloapu as there isn't a big supply for him right now and eventually Gus will have to pay extra to get rid of him like he did with Fatala-Mariner last year the Dragons were able to hold out until late January.

Last year Dolphins used 3 players outside their Top 30 - Fuller 11 games, Donoghue 10 games and Hubner 4 games that's 75k in player payments that comes out of the 640k in one of those games for Hubner was as 18th man. We don't and will never know if Donoghue or Fuller quietly got moved into the Top 30 earlier than expected with Wallace leaving although that happened in July so possibly not and we will never know. This is why clubs don't have 8 players on development for 80k each as something like 80-90k needs to be set aside for match payments and there's usually a development player on a slightly higher than 80k deal which Donoghue would have been for sure after being Top 30 in 2023 from early March to 31 October.

From the Top 30 last year - Gilbert, Graham and Te Whare didn't play a single game and Teague as 18th man got onto the field for one game.

Dylan Brown's management asking for 1.2 mil a season . Even with the lack of good halves, that is just funny.

Equaliser said:

Dylan Brown's management asking for 1.2 mil a season . Even with the lack of good halves, that is just funny.

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It's been him activating his player option at Eels, Gould or Politis.

Gus won't offer more than 850-900 and Politis has been losing his magic touch.

257Matt said:

It's been him activating his player option at Eels, Gould or Politis.

Gus won't offer more than 850-900 and Politis has been losing his magic touch.

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Any club that pays 1.2 a season must have rocks in their head, talented player but too much $$

Gary said:

Any club that pays 1.2 a season must have rocks in their head, talented player but too much $$

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I don't even think he's that talented. Games I have seen him play with Moses have been very underwhelming.

257Matt said:

It's been him activating his player option at Eels, Gould or Politis.

Gus won't offer more than 850-900 and Politis has been losing his magic touch.

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I think the NRL is onto the Roosters. Warned them of dire consequences for cheating.

Braith Anasta, former Roosters player and current player manager let the cat out of the bag when he said on TV, "There is an understanding that if a player goes to the Roosters, the board are going to ensure that player is set up for life after football." That's probably not in verbatim but something very close to that. Open and shut cheating.

Equaliser said:

I don't even think he's that talented. Games I have seen him play with Moses have been very underwhelming.

I think the NRL is onto the Roosters. Warned them of dire consequences for cheating.

Braith Anasta, former Roosters player and current player manager let the cat out of the bag when he said on TV, "There is an understanding that if a player goes to the Roosters, the board are going to ensure that player is set up for life after football." That's probably not in verbatim but something very close to that. Open and shut cheating.

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A number clubs do that broncos cowboys panthers

mr_c said:

A number clubs do that broncos cowboys panthers

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Cheat the cap openly?

Equaliser said:

Cheat the cap openly?

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No the last part set players up for life i know a guy that was t a big name player at cowboys whose on very tidy wicket

Gary said:

Any club that pays 1.2 a season must have rocks in their head, talented player but too much $$

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I agree and I hope Dolphins never go down that desperate path choosing to back the juniors, development and pathways systems that will soon kick into place.

Averillo is on 400k with Dolphins and the current Bulldogs deal with Oloapu is 350k per season. Should Oloapu come to Dolphins it will be more than probable that Gus will chip in for a fair slice of the 350k per season over the next two year. Say Gus chips in 150k that's Averillo and Oloapu on half the coin combined to what Brown wants. Oloapu will have a lot to prove fitness and attitude wise Averillo has showed he's a good value person and doesn't put the club into any disrepute.

Equaliser said:

I don't even think he's that talented. Games I have seen him play with Moses have been very underwhelming.

I think the NRL is onto the Roosters. Warned them of dire consequences for cheating.

Braith Anasta, former Roosters player and current player manager let the cat out of the bag when he said on TV, "There is an understanding that if a player goes to the Roosters, the board are going to ensure that player is set up for life after football." That's probably not in verbatim but something very close to that. Open and shut cheating.

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Politis isn't getting any younger. Roosters badly blundered the whole David Fifita thing had it been Tigers, Dragons or Dolphins they would have been slamming those clubs instead the Sydney media somehow slammed Fifita when it was all Nick's undoing. Nick has let go good young talents Strange and Preston if that was Tigers, Dragons or Titans it would have been all hell to pay especially on NRL360.

257Matt said:

Politis isn't getting any younger. Roosters badly blundered the whole David Fifita thing had it been Tigers, Dragons or Dolphins they would have been slamming those clubs instead the Sydney media somehow slammed Fifita when it was all Nick's undoing. Nick has let go good young talents Strange and Preston if that was Tigers, Dragons or Titans it would have been all hell to pay especially on NRL360.

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More to that story than media says

257Matt said:

Politis isn't getting any younger. Roosters badly blundered the whole David Fifita thing had it been Tigers, Dragons or Dolphins they would have been slamming those clubs instead the Sydney media somehow slammed Fifita when it was all Nick's undoing. Nick has let go good young talents Strange and Preston if that was Tigers, Dragons or Titans it would have been all hell to pay especially on NRL360.

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Who does Strange play for? Prreston isn't bad but he's hardly going relegate Angus Crighton and I think they have high hopes in the Butcher brothers.

mr_c said:

No the last part set players up for life i know a guy that was t a big name player at cowboys whose on very tidy wicket

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Setting up players for life after football, i.e. money after they retire, is cheating the cap.

Equaliser said:

Setting up players for life after football, i.e. money after they retire, is cheating the cap.

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Yep, Bulldogs caught out recently with their owner offering pub deals after playing life, Gus quickly suggested Arthur Laundy keep his mouth shut.

For me that would be like a red flag to a bull, however, this comp isn't the cleanest on the planet. And I'd wager the NRL prefers blissful ignorance amongst the fans, rather than a truly clean and even playing field.

I mean which is easier to achieve? I'd say convincing the public with media spin, and a large broom and wide carpet would be the most effective.