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Recruitment and Retention for 2028

Liverbird with Phins up said:
Noone knows

Bostock is just fishing for the most cash he can get.

I wouldnt be resigning someone just after the cash, without consideration for the team.

As I said, Dolphins put a good offer out there. Allowed him to look, I dont think we up that offer, from what I hear. But I said that a few weeks ago.

He is shopping himself hard.
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I can't blame him for wanting to cash in on his current profile. Good luck to him, however take out the scoring and look at the bulk of his time in play week after week and he still has quite significant weaknessess in defence in both technique and positioning. Granted the guaranteed weekly fuck sake jack moments have ALMOST all been cleaned up but there is still too many issues for a high value player.
 
I dont blame him either.

But never bite the hand that feeds you.

He was unwanted. We gave him an opportunity.

I think in life you get biten on the ass with things like that.

I like that the club has said $850k. Go fill your boots.

Dragons are at 1mil a year. And he is still shopping. There is something in that.
 
Looks like the media are now saying the mail is Herbie is more likely to stay at the Dolphins which is good and that Flegler is likely to be off to the Cowboys which I think we can all agree is fine too as there is no way we want to sign him on 900k a season

Bostock also saying he's not a lock to leave, it would be a massive, massive win for our off season if we keep both Herbie and Bostock and lose flegler but as long as we keep Herbie it's not bad by any means
 
Media is now also saying we are after Bradman Best.

I think a lot of journos are throwing shit at walls hoping it sticks.

All agent, media bullshit.

Just wait and see, what will be will be.

All i know is, and i have said it all along, cant be wasting money at centre or on the wings. They wont do shit if we arent going forward.

Keep one, from an experience stand point. But dont pay both, please.
 
Fact hus missus and his dad want Brahman at eels not sure we
be seeing it but in saying that him for jack I wouldn't say no
 
Best is suppose let us know by wed night if he's not got deal in sydney so guess that's when jack sorts his deal out
 
257Matt said:
Isn’t the pursuit of Best admittance of defeat on Herbie and Bostock ?
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lol who the ..... said both going, if jack wants overs let him , no way are we letting both go to get Bradman to partner up with a junior


comments like this tell you dont give rats about the club

the fact chocks circling jack tells me herbies said no one thing with bradman he wont want overs n will play outta his skin and deserves money hes on bostock just sees dollars

but you keep dreaming and go get a chocks membership
 
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257Matt said:
Isn’t the pursuit of Best admittance of defeat on Herbie and Bostock ?
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"Defeat"? We aren't the Dogs. Don't get "defeated" so often.

But I wish both of them would hurry TF up and do whatever they are going to do.
 
257Matt said:
Isn’t the pursuit of Best admittance of defeat on Herbie and Bostock ?
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One not both we have offers to both of them and Flegler is leaving and best will have a similar ask to Bostock and slightly lower than herbie

That said best currently plays on the left so unless he or Herbie is gonna switch sides he's a more likely replacement for Herbie than Bostock yet the news seems like we are more likely to lose Bostock of the two of them

We'll see I guess

Obv don't want to lose both of them but if we lost only one of them and got best as a replacement we'd be keeping two elite centres which would be nice although I'm not sure about the 1m a season on best if that's his ask

If flegler leaving gives us enough cap space to get or keep two out of three of Herbie Bostock and best though if be pretty happy with that

I still feel like we keep Herbie lose Bostock and don't sign best personally but who knows
 
SwoopAE said:
One not both we have offers to both of them and Flegler is leaving and best will have a similar ask to Bostock and slightly lower than herbie

That said best currently plays on the left so unless he or Herbie is gonna switch sides he's a more likely replacement for Herbie than Bostock yet the news seems like we are more likely to lose Bostock of the two of them

We'll see I guess

Obv don't want to lose both of them but if we lost only one of them and got best as a replacement we'd be keeping two elite centres which would be nice although I'm not sure about the 1m a season on best if that's his ask

If flegler leaving gives us enough cap space to get or keep two out of three of Herbie Bostock and best though if be pretty happy with that

I still feel like we keep Herbie lose Bostock and don't sign best personally but who knows
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I don't think any club can afford two centres on over 1 mil a season. It will mess up the cap. Need plenty of money spare for Katoa's next contract as well.
 
Cap is going up but yeah it would mean we need cheap forwards

Remember we do have the Flegler money coming back potentially and the Kaufusi money coming back next season to cover Katoa's upgrade but yeah i'd imagine the more likely scenario is we pay Herbie, let Bostock walk and Bostock plays for us in 2027 and by 2028 Lavender or one of the other rookies is first grade ready

I assume Best is just a backup plan if both of our centres leave which hopefully shouldn't happen if/when Herbie extends with us
 
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Josh said:
"Defeat"? We aren't the Dogs. Don't get "defeated" so often.

But I wish both of them would hurry TF up and do whatever they are going to do.
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yeah i be shocked if we loose 3 guys on good money and just use guys in our 30 ,no way we letting 3 top guys go without 3 decent guys on return matts talking s...t again ( thought herbie was gone matt)
 
SwoopAE said:
Cap is going up but yeah it would mean we need cheap forwards

Remember we do have the Flegler money coming back potentially and the Kaufusi money coming back next season to cover Katoa's upgrade but yeah i'd imagine the more likely scenario is we pay Herbie, let Bostock walk and Bostock plays for us in 2027 and by 2028 Lavender or one of the other rookies is first grade ready

I assume Best is just a backup plan if both of our centres leave which hopefully shouldn't happen if/when Herbie extends with us
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i heard we still looking at him if one goes which makre sense ( re best as hardly just going put someone from our 30 in with herbie or bostock and it wont be hammer n herbie or jack)
 
Josh said:
I don't think any club can afford two centres on over 1 mil a season. It will mess up the cap. Need plenty of money spare for Katoa's next contract as well.
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Katoa, Donga, Plath and JMK all off same year. The first 3 will be getting a massive pay rise whether it's at Dolphins or elsewhere, both Donga and Plath will be seeking a starting assurance and the club needs to sign a JMK replacement or keep JMK going he's 33 in 2028.

Dolphins have 5 players that are irreplaceable and it's them 4 plus Herbie.
 
SwoopAE said:
Cap is going up but yeah it would mean we need cheap forwards

Remember we do have the Flegler money coming back potentially and the Kaufusi money coming back next season to cover Katoa's upgrade but yeah i'd imagine the more likely scenario is we pay Herbie, let Bostock walk and Bostock plays for us in 2027 and by 2028 Lavender or one of the other rookies is first grade ready

I assume Best is just a backup plan if both of our centres leave which hopefully shouldn't happen if/when Herbie extends with us
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The cap rises for 18 clubs and we have a 19th side operating without taxes.

It's come out in one of the papers today about Flegler falling out with Woolf so he'll be gone in the next week or two. Woolf gets back from Tonga over the weekend and things like player movements should heat up next week.
 
I don't get this starting assurance thing

60 minutes at lock is 60 minutes at lock regardless of whether it's minues 0-60, 0-20 and 40-80 or 20-80 it isn't 1983 here, star players start on the bench all the time as long as they get full minutes, Harry Grant did it for years, David Fifita did it, etc

JMK is irreplaceable now (well not irreplaceable, Harry Grant is on the market, although I doubt we can afford him unless we lose both centres) but may not be by the end of his contract

Plath and Donoghoe will need upgrades and obviously Katoa will need to be bumped up to at least 1.2m a season or so which is a big upgrade but only 600k or so vs what he's on now if he's willing to take a big salary but slight unders to keep the side together which he's talked about repaying loyalty a lot, obviously we should not low ball him at all but he is pretty likely to extend on 1.2-1.3m a season vs trying to get 1.5+ on the open market especially if we are in a contending window

Williams 800k will be coming back into the cap too by 2029 unless he's getting extended for delivering at an elite level still and at his age will likely be 1-2 year deals max so there's a chance we can move Dongohoe to 6 and not have to sign a replacement at that point if we don't have a ready made developed talent to promote whether that's Oloapu or whoever else if we want to keep Donoghoe primarily at lock and Plath primarily as a middle forward.

Molo will also be off contract/probably not re signed due to age at that point and will be replaced by a rookie most likely, so that's a small saving there as well as well as Kaufusi retiring

If we keep both Bostock and Herbie it does make the cap very tight but if Bostock and Flegler both move on as expected we should have more than enough cap room to keep Herbie and then keep all of Katoa/Plath/Donoghoe/JMK next year - as good as JMK is I can't imagine there will be an enormous market for him on huge money given he will be 33 at the start of the 2029 season, he'll be fine to play on but probably on one year at a time deals etc and not on a huge salary increase given his age

If we somehow keep both Bostock and Herbie we could probably free up some cap space by not re-signing Fuller and using Herbie as a backup fullback since we'll have cover at centre and i'd imagine that would squeeze Williams out after his current deal and either Donoghoe could go to five-eighth and Plath back to lock or we end up with a rookie five eighth for the 2029 season which gives us tons of time to develop one.

There's a very good chance we are a very attractive club for talent to stay with or land at after the 2027 season as even if we do lose Bostock and/or Herbie we still have them for this season and with our squad we should probably finish top 4 if we stay healthy and be competing to win a premiership.
 
SwoopAE said:
I don't get this starting assurance thing

60 minutes at lock is 60 minutes at lock regardless of whether it's minues 0-60, 0-20 and 40-80 or 20-80 it isn't 1983 here, star players start on the bench all the time as long as they get full minutes, Harry Grant did it for years, David Fifita did it, etc

JMK is irreplaceable now (well not irreplaceable, Harry Grant is on the market, although I doubt we can afford him unless we lose both centres) but may not be by the end of his contract

Plath and Donoghoe will need upgrades and obviously Katoa will need to be bumped up to at least 1.2m a season or so which is a big upgrade but only 600k or so vs what he's on now if he's willing to take a big salary but slight unders to keep the side together which he's talked about repaying loyalty a lot, obviously we should not low ball him at all but he is pretty likely to extend on 1.2-1.3m a season vs trying to get 1.5+ on the open market especially if we are in a contending window

Williams 800k will be coming back into the cap too by 2029 unless he's getting extended for delivering at an elite level still and at his age will likely be 1-2 year deals max so there's a chance we can move Dongohoe to 6 and not have to sign a replacement at that point if we don't have a ready made developed talent to promote whether that's Oloapu or whoever else if we want to keep Donoghoe primarily at lock and Plath primarily as a middle forward.

Molo will also be off contract/probably not re signed due to age at that point and will be replaced by a rookie most likely, so that's a small saving there as well as well as Kaufusi retiring

If we keep both Bostock and Herbie it does make the cap very tight but if Bostock and Flegler both move on as expected we should have more than enough cap room to keep Herbie and then keep all of Katoa/Plath/Donoghoe/JMK next year - as good as JMK is I can't imagine there will be an enormous market for him on huge money given he will be 33 at the start of the 2029 season, he'll be fine to play on but probably on one year at a time deals etc and not on a huge salary increase given his age

If we somehow keep both Bostock and Herbie we could probably free up some cap space by not re-signing Fuller and using Herbie as a backup fullback since we'll have cover at centre and i'd imagine that would squeeze Williams out after his current deal and either Donoghoe could go to five-eighth and Plath back to lock or we end up with a rookie five eighth for the 2029 season which gives us tons of time to develop one.

There's a very good chance we are a very attractive club for talent to stay with or land at after the 2027 season as even if we do lose Bostock and/or Herbie we still have them for this season and with our squad we should probably finish top 4 if we stay healthy and be competing to win a premiership.
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yeah theres no way clubs giving them starting insurance and theres also no guarantee another club will ,

woolfs on the next man up theory so yeah if player wants to go he won't stop them

matts just in fantasy land
 
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